G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC Fullscreen vs. Borderless/Windowed


DWM Woes?

Requested by swarna in the Blur Busters Forums, is a scenario that investigates the effects of the DWM (Desktop Windows Manager, “Aero” in Windows 7) on G-SYNC in borderless and windowed mode.

Unlike exclusive fullscreen, which bypasses the DWM composition entirely, borderless and windowed mode rely on the DWM, which, due to its framebuffer, adds 1 frame of delay. The DWM can’t be disabled in Windows 10, and uses it’s own form of triple buffer V-SYNC (very similar to Fast Sync) that overrides all standard syncing solutions when borderless or windowed mode are in use.

To make sure this was the case, all combinations of NVCP and in-game V-SYNC, as well as the Windows 10 “Game Mode” and “fullscreen optimization” settings were tested to see if DWM could be disabled, and tearing could be introduced; it could not be, so Game Mode and fullscreen optimizations were disabled once again, and NVCP V-SYNC was re-enabled across scenarios for consistency’s sake.

The question is, does DWM add 1 frame of delay with G-SYNC using borderless and windowed mode?

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Overwatch, shows that, no, with G-SYNC enabled, both borderless and windowed mode do not add 1 frame of delay over exclusive fullscreen. Standalone “V-SYNC,” however, does show the expected 1 frame of delay.

CS:GO was also tested for corroboration, and ought to have the same results, as DWM behavior is at the OS-level and should remain unchanged, regardless of the game…

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Sure enough, again, G-SYNC sees no added delay, and V-SYNC sees the expected 1 frame of delay.

Further testing may be required, but it appears on the latest public build of Windows 10 with out-of-the-box settings (with or without “Game Mode”), G-SYNC somehow bypasses the 1 frame of delay added by the DWM. That said, I still don’t suggest borderless or windowed mode over exclusive fullscreen due to the 3-5% decrease in performance, but if these findings are true across configurations, it great news for games that only offer a borderless windowed option, or for multitaskers with secondary monitors.



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Savatgy
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Savatgy

NO matter how I configure G Sync, it appears to cause input lag in Overwatch.

Chief Blur Buster
Admin

Which monitor model? And G-SYNC native or G-SYNC compatible (FreeSync)?

Karker
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Karker

so functionally and properly setup, gsync and quite possibly gsync-compatible* should have lower input lag than even an uncapped frame rate?

if this is the case, why arent competitive gamers doing this?

ivandudude
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ivandudude

should i cap it to 141 if i have a 144hz monitor with v sync on or off? also i dont have g sync but im looking to get the less input lag. this is for fortnite and this game called smite.

bioinfinite121818
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bioinfinite121818

Hi, I was wondering I recently bought a g sync 240hzmonitor and I have g sync and nvidia v sync on, should I lower the refresh rate of my monitor 237 or is okay if I can keep it at 240?

rayjays1986
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rayjays1986

Was wondering, do you have any advice on State of Decay 2? I seem to be having major stutter/lag issues with that game and G-Sync. It’s hard to explain, it’s almost as if there’s some sort of asset loading going on while I’m driving especially, and it looks quite laggy/stuttery. I have seen numerous others talk of this, and numerous others who say it runs smooth as butter. I change over to fixed refresh and vsync, and it seems to help a little, but it’s not totally gone. BUT, using fixed refresh w/ fast sync, it almost (not quite but almost) eliminates the effect, with the lag much less apparent. I experimented a bit and G-sync plus fast sync seems to help too, though here it says not to do that. I wouldn’t think of doing that in anything else, I just seen several posts that it had something to do w/ that game/engine in particular w/ G-sync and laggy/stuttery moments on occasion. Did you (or anyone else here) happen to experience any of this with State of Decay 2? If so, anyone know how to fix it? I actually really enjoy the game, but that lag is incredibly annoying for me (seems to happen most when I’m driving). Thanks in advance for any answers!

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