G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC vs. V-SYNC OFF w/FPS Limit


At the Mercy of the Scanout

Now that the FPS limit required for G-SYNC to avoid V-SYNC-level input lag has been established, how does G-SYNC + V-SYNC and G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off” compare to V-SYNC OFF at the same framerate?

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

The results show a consistent difference between the three methods across most refresh rates (240Hz is nearly equalized in any scenario), with V-SYNC OFF (G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off,” to a lesser degree) appearing to have a slight edge over G-SYNC + V-SYNC. Why? The answer is tearing…

With any vertical synchronization method, the delivery speed of a single, tear-free frame (barring unrelated frame delay caused by many other factors) is ultimately limited by the scanout. As mentioned in G-SYNC 101: Range, The “scanout” is the total time it takes a single frame to be physically drawn, pixel by pixel, left to right, top to bottom on-screen.

With a fixed refresh rate display, both the refresh rate and scanout remain fixed at their maximum, regardless of framerate. With G-SYNC, the refresh rate is matched to the framerate, and while the scanout speed remains fixed, the refresh rate controls how many times the scanout is repeated per second (60 times at 60 FPS/60Hz, 45 times at 45 fps/45Hz, etc), along with the duration of the vertical blanking interval (the span between the previous and next frame scan), where G-SYNC calculates and performs all overdrive and synchronization adjustments from frame to frame.

The scanout speed itself, both on a fixed refresh rate and variable refresh rate display, is dictated by the current maximum refresh rate of the display:

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Scanout Speed DiagramAs the diagram shows, the higher the refresh rate of the display, the faster the scanout speed becomes. This also explains why V-SYNC OFF’s input lag advantage, especially at the same framerate as G-SYNC, is reduced as the refresh rate increases; single frame delivery becomes faster, and V-SYNC OFF has less of an opportunity to defeat the scanout.

V-SYNC OFF can defeat the scanout by starting the scan of the next frame(s) within the previous frame’s scanout anywhere on screen, and at any given time:

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Lag & Optimal Settings

This results in simultaneous delivery of more than one frame scan in a single scanout (tearing), but also a reduction in input lag; the amount of which is dictated by the positioning and number of tearline(s), which is further dictated by the refresh rate/sustained framerate ratio (more on this later).

As noted in G-SYNC 101: Range, G-SYNC + VSYNC “Off” (a.k.a. Adaptive G-SYNC) can have a slight input lag reduction over G-SYNC + V-SYNC as well, since it will opt for tearing instead of aligning the next frame scan to the next scanout when sudden frametime variances occur.

To eliminate tearing, G-SYNC + VSYNC is limited to completing a single frame scan per scanout, and it must follow the scanout from top to bottom, without exception. On paper, this can give the impression that G-SYNC + V-SYNC has an increase in latency over the other two methods. However, the delivery of a single, complete frame with G-SYNC + V-SYNC is actually the lowest possible, or neutral speed, and the advantage seen with V-SYNC OFF is the negative reduction in delivery speed, due to its ability to defeat the scanout.

Bottom-line, within its range, G-SYNC + V-SYNC delivers single, tear-free frames to the display the fastest the scanout allows; any faster, and tearing would be introduced.



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dotyerts
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dotyerts

I’ve been reading your stuff for years. Appreciate all of it.
Let me get this summarized in one quick writeup.

I have a freesync compatible monitor viotek gft27db 144hz. If i enable G-SYNC properly with my DP cable on an RTX 2070, and have VSYNC ON, as well as + NULL, then I should
1. be all good in terms of enabling GSYNCwithout the issues of VSYNC off causing tearing sometimes.
2. NOT be required to Limit my fps to 141 by using RTSS? I’m currently using it limited to 141 to stay under and avoid the buffer flip interval.
2.b. wondering if this is the case, so I can turn off RTSS and retrieve that minuscule amount of input lag it causes.

nuk_won
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nuk_won

Tell me if I am wrong. But I think I figured it out. G-sync it self don’t ad input lag so if i have it I might as well turn it on to get stutter/screen tearing free game play. So as I understand u turn g-sync on + vsync off find the fps by caping it 165 then 164 ect where there is no screen tearing at bottom of the screen let’s say it would be 158 then u go Nvidia control panel turn g-sync on vsync off set low latency to ultra and cap ur fps at 158 and this is the way u get lowest input lag + as it would be running a monitor who don’t have g-sync and just caping fps at 165fps but this way u don’t get the benefits as smooth game play no stuttering. This would be best only for GPU bound games like apex legends other games that use CPU this could increase input lag? Please correct me if I’m wrong or maybe I need to turn g-sync off set fixed refresh rate null set to ultra fps cap at 165. Main game is apex legends. This I how I run the game currently.

Specs pc: 87k at 4.5gh 1080ti oc. Monitor: AOC 24″ 2k rez 165hz g-sync.

Ownsin
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Ownsin

Hey there. Can I ask If I should turn on V-Sync in-game or from the Nivida Control Panel for my G-Sync 144hz monitor? I recently watched a video for Battlenonesene where he says turning on V-Sync inside of games is better than turning it on from the NVCP because some engines have optimizations for their V-Sync. What’s your take on this matter?

Another thing I want to bring up. Can you tell me what’s the difference between turning on V-Sync and Fastsync from the NVCP? as far as I know, Fastsync eliminates tearing, leaves the frame rate unlocked and doesn’t add nearly as much input lag as regular V-Sync, so why is it recommended that we use V-Sync instead of Fastsync?

P.S: which frame limiter do you suggest I should use.

Thank you.

gzmm
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gzmm

Hello, i have a samsung C24FG73, with 70~144hz freesync range.
for me, gsync+vsync in driver with 138 fps limiter seens to be working very well.
but, if a game is locked at 60 frames, the gsync will be ‘disable’, and only vsync will work, correct?
this will introduce alot of input lag, or the FLC helps?

buddersnaps
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buddersnaps

Hi when running a game that GPU is using 100% resources do i still want NVCP v sync set ON and low latency set to Ultra. i have g sync monitor thats 144hz. i have games capped at 141 but get about 100 – 120 most of the time. are my settings still correct when getting frames below monitor refresh rate and GPU bound using NVCP v sync ON, low latency ULTRA, Gsync ON, and in game fps capped to 141 and vsync off?

then to clarify when not gpu bound just use the “on” option instead of ultra for low latency?

also monitor has ULMB or should i just stick with gsync? if i used ULMB what would i do for vsync and latency options?

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