G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC Ceiling vs. FPS Limit


How Low Should You Go?

Blur Busters was the world’s first site to test G-SYNC in Preview of NVIDIA G-SYNC, Part #1 (Fluidity) using an ASUS VG248QE pre-installed with a G-SYNC upgrade kit. At the time, the consensus was limiting the fps from 135 to 138 at 144Hz was enough to avoid V-SYNC-level input lag.

However, much has changed since the first G-SYNC upgrade kit was released; the Minimum Refresh Range wasn’t in place, the V-SYNC toggle had yet to be exposed, G-SYNC did not support borderless or windowed mode, and there was even a small performance penalty on the Kepler architecture at the time (Maxwell and later corrected this).

My own testing in my Blur Busters Forum thread found that just 2 FPS below the refresh rate was enough to avoid the G-SYNC ceiling. However, now armed with improved testing methods and equipment, is this still the case, and does the required FPS limit change depending on the refresh rate?

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

As the results show, just 2 FPS below the refresh rate is indeed still enough to avoid the G-SYNC ceiling and prevent V-SYNC-level input lag, and this number does not change, regardless of the maximum refresh rate in use.

To leave no stone unturned, an “at” FPS, -1 FPS, -2 FPS, and finally -10 FPS limit was tested to prove that even far below -2 FPS, no real improvements can be had. In fact, limiting the FPS lower than needed can actually slightly increase input lag, especially at lower refresh rates, since frametimes quickly become higher, and thus frame delivery becomes slower due to the decrease in sustained framerates.

As for the “perfect” number, going by the results, and taking into consideration variances in accuracy from FPS limiter to FPS limiter, along with differences in performance from system to system, a -3 FPS limit is the safest bet, and is my new recommendation. A lower FPS limit, at least for the purpose of avoiding the G-SYNC ceiling, will simply rob frames.



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dotyerts
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dotyerts

I’ve been reading your stuff for years. Appreciate all of it.
Let me get this summarized in one quick writeup.

I have a freesync compatible monitor viotek gft27db 144hz. If i enable G-SYNC properly with my DP cable on an RTX 2070, and have VSYNC ON, as well as + NULL, then I should
1. be all good in terms of enabling GSYNCwithout the issues of VSYNC off causing tearing sometimes.
2. NOT be required to Limit my fps to 141 by using RTSS? I’m currently using it limited to 141 to stay under and avoid the buffer flip interval.
2.b. wondering if this is the case, so I can turn off RTSS and retrieve that minuscule amount of input lag it causes.

nuk_won
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nuk_won

Tell me if I am wrong. But I think I figured it out. G-sync it self don’t ad input lag so if i have it I might as well turn it on to get stutter/screen tearing free game play. So as I understand u turn g-sync on + vsync off find the fps by caping it 165 then 164 ect where there is no screen tearing at bottom of the screen let’s say it would be 158 then u go Nvidia control panel turn g-sync on vsync off set low latency to ultra and cap ur fps at 158 and this is the way u get lowest input lag + as it would be running a monitor who don’t have g-sync and just caping fps at 165fps but this way u don’t get the benefits as smooth game play no stuttering. This would be best only for GPU bound games like apex legends other games that use CPU this could increase input lag? Please correct me if I’m wrong or maybe I need to turn g-sync off set fixed refresh rate null set to ultra fps cap at 165. Main game is apex legends. This I how I run the game currently.

Specs pc: 87k at 4.5gh 1080ti oc. Monitor: AOC 24″ 2k rez 165hz g-sync.

Ownsin
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Ownsin

Hey there. Can I ask If I should turn on V-Sync in-game or from the Nivida Control Panel for my G-Sync 144hz monitor? I recently watched a video for Battlenonesene where he says turning on V-Sync inside of games is better than turning it on from the NVCP because some engines have optimizations for their V-Sync. What’s your take on this matter?

Another thing I want to bring up. Can you tell me what’s the difference between turning on V-Sync and Fastsync from the NVCP? as far as I know, Fastsync eliminates tearing, leaves the frame rate unlocked and doesn’t add nearly as much input lag as regular V-Sync, so why is it recommended that we use V-Sync instead of Fastsync?

P.S: which frame limiter do you suggest I should use.

Thank you.

gzmm
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gzmm

Hello, i have a samsung C24FG73, with 70~144hz freesync range.
for me, gsync+vsync in driver with 138 fps limiter seens to be working very well.
but, if a game is locked at 60 frames, the gsync will be ‘disable’, and only vsync will work, correct?
this will introduce alot of input lag, or the FLC helps?

buddersnaps
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buddersnaps

Hi when running a game that GPU is using 100% resources do i still want NVCP v sync set ON and low latency set to Ultra. i have g sync monitor thats 144hz. i have games capped at 141 but get about 100 – 120 most of the time. are my settings still correct when getting frames below monitor refresh rate and GPU bound using NVCP v sync ON, low latency ULTRA, Gsync ON, and in game fps capped to 141 and vsync off?

then to clarify when not gpu bound just use the “on” option instead of ultra for low latency?

also monitor has ULMB or should i just stick with gsync? if i used ULMB what would i do for vsync and latency options?

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